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	<description>working for the triumph of content over form, ideas over control, people over systems</description>
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		<title>Comment on I link therefore I am by Research Australia and Trove &#171; Australia New Zealand Digital Encyclopedias Group</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/experiments/i-link-therefore-i-am/comment-page-1#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>Research Australia and Trove &#171; Australia New Zealand Digital Encyclopedias Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In that same post, I mentioned how people like Tim Sherratt are starting to build ways to access the data if you are not an institution. Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser is designed for finding just one name and the link that will point to it. This is handy if you are writing a blog post about someone, for example, and want to link to them. Tim has described how it all works in I link therefore I am. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In that same post, I mentioned how people like Tim Sherratt are starting to build ways to access the data if you are not an institution. Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser is designed for finding just one name and the link that will point to it. This is handy if you are writing a blog post about someone, for example, and want to link to them. Tim has described how it all works in I link therefore I am. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cooliris-enabled scrapbook by tim</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/hacks/cooliris-enabled-scrapbook/comment-page-1#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The short answer is no. In order to do its magic, CoolIris needs a nicely formatted Media RSS feed. The RSS feed includes the links for the thumbnail, the full-size image, a caption and a link to the site. If the site itself doesn&#039;t supply it, there are some DIY possibilities, but they&#039;re not entirely straightforward.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/archives-shoebox/archives-in-3d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;archives browser userscript&lt;/a&gt; achieves this by first extracting a file barcode from the page and then sending this barcode off to a php script sitting on my server. Because the image locations are all based on the barcode, the php script can use it to build a Media RSS feed. The &#039;View in 3D&#039; button launches CoolIris using the url of the php script.

The Mapping our Anzacs scrapbook uses a different approach. First of all I had access to the template, so I could insert a link directly rather than with a userscript. The link again goes to a php script, but this time it uses the Tumblr API to gather the info it needs to build the RSS feed.

In theory, you should be able to write a userscript that extracts all the information you need from a page of thumbnails to generate the Media RSS feed. Indeed, I&#039;ve done this for the online photo collections at the PROV. The problem is that there&#039;s currently no way of directly loading this feed into the CoolIris plugin. The best you can do is load it into a &#039;flat&#039; slideshow using the CoolIris default javascript option. It looks quite nice, but it&#039;s no 3D wall. If you want to see it in action, then install &lt;a href=&quot;http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/71421&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this userscript&lt;/a&gt; and go the the &lt;a href=&quot;http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=41&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public transport photos&lt;/a&gt;.

If you want the full 3D CoolIris experience then you need something a bit more complicated. If the server is using GET to return search results, then it should be possible to use a userscript to send the current search to a php or python script somewhere else. This script could then do all the parsing, pull out the details and return them as an RSS feed.

The PROV site doesn&#039;t allow this. So the only way I could see to CoolIris-enable it from the outside would be to have a userscript extract the image details then send them on to a server script somewhere to generate the feed. I had a go at this, but ran into a problem with the length of the querystring that was being passed.

Of course, the best solution would be to write and deliver the Media RSS feed from the PROV servers themselves! Or even better, make all the data available through an API or as Open Linked Data and leave it to users to develop all sorts of cool new interfaces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short answer is no. In order to do its magic, CoolIris needs a nicely formatted Media RSS feed. The RSS feed includes the links for the thumbnail, the full-size image, a caption and a link to the site. If the site itself doesn&#8217;t supply it, there are some DIY possibilities, but they&#8217;re not entirely straightforward.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/archives-shoebox/archives-in-3d" rel="nofollow">archives browser userscript</a> achieves this by first extracting a file barcode from the page and then sending this barcode off to a php script sitting on my server. Because the image locations are all based on the barcode, the php script can use it to build a Media RSS feed. The &#8216;View in 3D&#8217; button launches CoolIris using the url of the php script.</p>
<p>The Mapping our Anzacs scrapbook uses a different approach. First of all I had access to the template, so I could insert a link directly rather than with a userscript. The link again goes to a php script, but this time it uses the Tumblr API to gather the info it needs to build the RSS feed.</p>
<p>In theory, you should be able to write a userscript that extracts all the information you need from a page of thumbnails to generate the Media RSS feed. Indeed, I&#8217;ve done this for the online photo collections at the PROV. The problem is that there&#8217;s currently no way of directly loading this feed into the CoolIris plugin. The best you can do is load it into a &#8216;flat&#8217; slideshow using the CoolIris default javascript option. It looks quite nice, but it&#8217;s no 3D wall. If you want to see it in action, then install <a href="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/71421" rel="nofollow">this userscript</a> and go the the <a href="http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=41" rel="nofollow">public transport photos</a>.</p>
<p>If you want the full 3D CoolIris experience then you need something a bit more complicated. If the server is using GET to return search results, then it should be possible to use a userscript to send the current search to a php or python script somewhere else. This script could then do all the parsing, pull out the details and return them as an RSS feed.</p>
<p>The PROV site doesn&#8217;t allow this. So the only way I could see to CoolIris-enable it from the outside would be to have a userscript extract the image details then send them on to a server script somewhere to generate the feed. I had a go at this, but ran into a problem with the length of the querystring that was being passed.</p>
<p>Of course, the best solution would be to write and deliver the Media RSS feed from the PROV servers themselves! Or even better, make all the data available through an API or as Open Linked Data and leave it to users to develop all sorts of cool new interfaces.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cooliris-enabled scrapbook by asa letourneau</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/hacks/cooliris-enabled-scrapbook/comment-page-1#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator>asa letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just installed Greasemonkey, your script and then Cooliris...OMG...what a way to browse images...certainly brings the archives to life not to mention the photos of the kids from the desktop! thanks heaps Tim.

Now I&#039;m trying to work out if I can cut and paste an url such as http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp into  the cooliris url so that i can browse images off specific sites?

Cheers, asa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just installed Greasemonkey, your script and then Cooliris&#8230;OMG&#8230;what a way to browse images&#8230;certainly brings the archives to life not to mention the photos of the kids from the desktop! thanks heaps Tim.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m trying to work out if I can cut and paste an url such as <a href="http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp" rel="nofollow">http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp</a> into  the cooliris url so that i can browse images off specific sites?</p>
<p>Cheers, asa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Playing with pipes by asa letourneau</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/playing-with-pipes/comment-page-1#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>asa letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

If you are out there and you get this...knew nothing about screen scraping a few days ago. Came across this http://newprosoft.com/web-content-extractor.htm Not bad for someone like me who has ZERO scripting/coding background!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>If you are out there and you get this&#8230;knew nothing about screen scraping a few days ago. Came across this <a href="http://newprosoft.com/web-content-extractor.htm" rel="nofollow">http://newprosoft.com/web-content-extractor.htm</a> Not bad for someone like me who has ZERO scripting/coding background!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emerging technologies and the need to experiment by tim</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/archives-shoebox/emerging-technologies-and-the-need-to-experiment/comment-page-1#comment-1897</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asa, Thanks - glad you&#039;re finding it useful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asa, Thanks &#8211; glad you&#8217;re finding it useful!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering Lawrence Hargrave by tim</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/words/articles/remembering-lawrence-hargrave/comment-page-1#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virgioni, Geoffrey Hargrave was killed on the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey, see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgioni, Geoffrey Hargrave was killed on the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey, see &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Emerging technologies and the need to experiment by asa letourneau</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/archives-shoebox/emerging-technologies-and-the-need-to-experiment/comment-page-1#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>asa letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have read about 3/4 and am blown away! Thanks so much for making accessible a wealth of knowledge and links to people such as myself who are just starting out in the brave new world of open data and open archives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have read about 3/4 and am blown away! Thanks so much for making accessible a wealth of knowledge and links to people such as myself who are just starting out in the brave new world of open data and open archives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering Lawrence Hargrave by Virginio Tonini</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/words/articles/remembering-lawrence-hargrave/comment-page-1#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginio Tonini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vorrei sapere perchè viene scritto che Geoffrey Lewis Hargrave, fù ucciso il giorno 4 oppure il 24 Maggio 1915 , in una azione bellica, a Gallipoli ( Lecce ) Italia. Ci deve essere un errore in quanto l&#039; Italia entrò in guerra il 24 Maggio 1915 , ma a Gallipoli non vi  fù mai dei combattimenti per tutta la durata della guerra. Sinceramente vostro
Virginio Tonini - un appassionato di storia dell&#039; aviazione</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vorrei sapere perchè viene scritto che Geoffrey Lewis Hargrave, fù ucciso il giorno 4 oppure il 24 Maggio 1915 , in una azione bellica, a Gallipoli ( Lecce ) Italia. Ci deve essere un errore in quanto l&#8217; Italia entrò in guerra il 24 Maggio 1915 , ma a Gallipoli non vi  fù mai dei combattimenti per tutta la durata della guerra. Sinceramente vostro<br />
Virginio Tonini &#8211; un appassionato di storia dell&#8217; aviazione</p>
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		<title>Comment on I link therefore I am by Linking to Trove &#171; Australia New Zealand Digital Encyclopedias Group</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/experiments/i-link-therefore-i-am/comment-page-1#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>Linking to Trove &#171; Australia New Zealand Digital Encyclopedias Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sometimes, though, you just want to link one or two names to Trove.  Maybe you want to disambiguate someone in a blog post.  In that case, think about using Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser. Tim Sherratt has written Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser as a Python library that helps you to quickly generate an RDFa link to someone in Trove. That means that you can link to a person in Trove and (with the help of a Friend of a Friend (FOAF) prefix mapping) tell harvesters that this is a link to a person and that person is Grace Cossington Smith.  All that semantic goodness. Tim has described how it all works in I link therefore I am. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sometimes, though, you just want to link one or two names to Trove.  Maybe you want to disambiguate someone in a blog post.  In that case, think about using Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser. Tim Sherratt has written Wragge&#8217;s Identity Browser as a Python library that helps you to quickly generate an RDFa link to someone in Trove. That means that you can link to a person in Trove and (with the help of a Friend of a Friend (FOAF) prefix mapping) tell harvesters that this is a link to a person and that person is Grace Cossington Smith.  All that semantic goodness. Tim has described how it all works in I link therefore I am. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I link therefore I am by b3rn</title>
		<link>http://discontents.com.au/shed/experiments/i-link-therefore-i-am/comment-page-1#comment-1872</link>
		<dc:creator>b3rn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim, very helpful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim, very helpful</p>
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